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from john boehner who is going to try to use the jobs report to the republican's advantage. representative, let's start with the november jobs report numbers. they look very good, good news overall for the koirnlt tree. but speaker boehner said this, the democrats plan to slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff instead of engaging in serious talks to avert the cliff, that includes spending cuts and tax reforms the president once supported. the white house has only offered a joke. i understand we have speaker boehner to the microphones. let's take a listen. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts. and an indefinite, infinite increase on the debt limit, like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal, based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there's been no
rifles like the one used by gunman adam lanza. >> it's the president's job to promote a plan that fixing, satisfies the needs of the country. he is the commander in chief. he's the consoler in chief but the commander in chief. joining me from newtown, connecticut, is chris jansing, host of "jansing & company." chris, we heard a lot of different things about flowers running out of local shops there in town because of the outpouring the support for the victims. as we watched the scene there grow. describe what you've been witnessing as you people prepare to bury two of these little 6-year-olds. >> everybody that i talked to, thomas, in this community,s especially the families have told me that they feel the support here and literally around the country. i was talking to principal hochsprung's daughter, erica. we heard from her this morning. she said one of the things that has heartened her is hearing from teachers all around the country, house inspired they would have been. she said if my mother would have had one message to anybody, it would have been read a book to a child. and they've b
for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> a good saturday afternoon. i'm craig melvin. you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. 24 days to the cliff. what's it going to take to keep the government on track and keep the nation from going off the rails? we'll talk about that. plus, the push for marriage equality could get a huge lift from the high court. we'll examine what's next for those who want to see same-sex marriage become the law of the land. meanwhile, in egypt, they are just trying to get a functioning government off the ground. we'll go live to cairo where along with tear gas the words in the air today are martial law. >>> first, though, some developing news from south africa where nelson mandela is in the hospital right now. the former president is undergoing medical tests. that's according to the government. these tests have been planned for
. they say they feel the support, thomas. >> nbc's chris jansing reporting for us there. the host of "jansing & company" here on msnbc. chris, thanks so much. senator joe lieberman speaking on the house floor right now. talking about what this tragedy has meant to him. he's an independent. we'll listen in for a second. >> -- the act of a madman. or mad people. this time, they said it reflects a deeper problem in our society. and i believe what causes that change is that 20 of the victims in newtown, connecticut, were young children. and there is not only a heartbreak across our country about this, not only anger, but i think there's guilt. and we all ought to feel guilty because as a society, what the attacks in newtown said to us is that, we have failed to fulfill what would seem to be our most natural -- natural law. if you will. responsibility which is to protect the safety and lives of our children. >> senator joe lieberman talking on the senate floor saying they ought to feel guilty, referencing himself and his other colleagues, that americans aren't protected by stricter gun laws in thi
't know it. look at the leadership that we have leading us. i mean, it's like lemmings. come on. >> all right. that's what's being said right now. joining us from capitol hill is nbc news correspondent mike viqueira. we have some elements from what we understand to be a deal at the moment. what would you say the mood is right now? what are some of the other details? break it down for us. >> richard, it's funny. at this point we're stuck sort of reading tea leaves. yes, we've had indications with more detail than we've got in days on what the outlines of that deal might be. but i got to tell you any deal if it were to pass both houses of congress here in the last 12 hours before midnight would carry with it the seeds of further confrontation and not that much further down the road. maybe two, perhaps three months. let's take a look one more time at what is being discussed now. mitch mcconnell and joe biden talked into the wee hours until 12:30 last night and 6:30 this morning. $450,000 as the threshold for couples, $400,000 for individuals over which your taxes would go up about four per
of us. based on what you heard there, what, if anything, what more have we been able to clean about this shooter? >> well, quite a bit. we continue to clear up this confusion, almost the equivalent of the fog of war that has existed for the past day and a half. we're now told that there is no formal report of any altercation that took place between the shooter and the three or four staff members or teachers that some reports said took place on thursday. we now know, officially, that there's no known connection between the mother in the school, although we labored under the impression all day yesterday that she was a kindergarten teacher. somehow, erroneous information passed on to us. we know from the medical examiner, who personally conduct ed seven of the autopsies, realizing there's many more victims, seven of the autopsies, all which he indicated were first graders, and that each of these -- each of these children suffered between 3 and 7 gunshot wounds each. now, this is with a 223. this is an assault rifle. some information has suggested that the victim's mother had access or
that sit there and come up with something else doesn't make sense. so if they come together with us to focus on the middle class and make sure that they are protected, then we can have some debates. but i think we can still come together. unfortunately, i think the latest proposal isn't going to work and it actually doesn't make sense for the economy overall because middle income families drive the economy more than 80% of the economic activity of consumer spending is generated from people making less than 150, not 250. so we need to have middle income families have that security and then we can talk about the top 2%. >> the president is sitting down, as we speak, with six governors from both sides of the aisle. >> right. >> we're getting first pictures in of that meeting. as we wait to hear what comes from this, is it time for the president to make speaker boehner an offer that he just can't refuse, one that both sides are going to look at as serious? what harry reid is saying a what the gop came back is a nonstarter. john boehner said over the weekend we are nowhere on this. it's
this done. they know pretty much what has to be done. and they would like to see us just do it. and get out of here. >> congressman, are the outs in the favor of this two-step process of getting something done that will save the majority of americans 98% from tax increases come the new year? is that mainly the game plan at this point, with time running down? >> well, i hope it is. i would love to see a big deal. you know, i served on the so-called supercommittee. i was a member of the biden group. and throughout all of that, we were working on how to get to a big deal. but even back then, we were looking at a $1.2 trillion deal to just get beyond the so-called sequestration. and that would be a down payment on the bigger deal to come later, getting up around $4 trillion to $5 trillion. so i think that's still there. so i think it's still a two-step process. we may be talking different numbers. >> right. >> but there's always going to be two steps. >> we just heard from south carolina, senator jim demint who is going to predict that they get their wish. also accusing the president of intenti
lanza, and his family. what can you tell us? >> reporter: good afternoon. we are starting to put together some of the pieces of the p s te puz i will. adam lanza was home schooled. he has been described by students who -- when he did go to school, classmates of him, as very intelligent and as we have often heard in these cases, also described as loner. someone that didn't have a lot of friends. went out of his way not to be noticed, of course, he couldn't have changed that in a more devastating way than he did by going into that elementary school. his aunt, who has not seen him since he was 3 years old, spoke just within the last hour to local reporters in north carolina. here is what she had to say about adam. >> he was different. he was quiet. nice kid. good kid. he was challenging the family in that house. never in trouble with the law. never in trouble with anything. >> she also talked a little bit about adam's mother who, of course, was the first victim in this massacre. we have a picture of her. this is the first time we have been able to see her. the aunt described her as
he met with jack and the rest of the team and i hope you get the same sense and commitment from us as we engage with you. there aren't a lot of wall flowers in here, we're eager for a two-way exchange nonetheless and hopefully your takeaway will be a useful purpose in the dialogue so i'm shortening up my speech significantly so mr. president, thank you again for joining us today, we'd love to hear from you. [ applause ] >> well, good morning, everybody. it is great to see awful you. many of you have had a chance to see individually or in small groups over the last several months but it's good to be back at the business roundtable. jim, thanks for your leadership. originally my team had prepared some remarks, they always get nervous when i'm out there on my own, never know what i might say, but given the dialogue that we had the last time, i thought it was useful for me to abbreviate my remarks, speak off the cuff at the top and spend most of our time just having a conversation. let me begin by saying that all of you in this room are not just business leaders, not just ceos of your
the key is whether the speaker will be the speaker of the entire house and let the matters come before us where there could be a majority of democrats and perhaps a majority of republicans, but let es speak our will and act on our will. that's really one of the keys. i think if the senate bill or what was in it were brought before the house, keeping the middle-class tax cuts, but not those for the upper income, and making sure the alternative minimum tax did not go into effect -- i think it would pass with a coalition. and i think the same could be true of unemployment insurance. 2 million people will lose their federal benefits tomorrow, if we don't have. 2 million people. >> when we snowe the fiscal cliff was imposed as a stopgap on you and all of your colleagues on the hill, are you disappointed that you've had to see it come down to the wire like this? this is basically a self-designed fiscal nightmare that you and all of your colleagues have created. are you disappointed that we haven't been ability to get it together more? >> absolutely. it shouldn't happen this way, but the republi
springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and do the right thing. >> listen to that, and it seems like they are both positive and feel something can get done. while both sides are away, the away and president in hawaii, can they get something done? >> reporter: well, look, richard, this will be a working vacation for president obama and i can also tell you that staffers on both sides of pennsylvania avenue will be in talks over the next several days despite the fact that they are technically on vacation. will they be able to get manage done that is significant over the next several days? probably not. but of course, lawmakers will head back to d.c. after the christmas holiday and resume negotiations again, and i expect we will see president obama cut his vacation short. there's time to get something done, the president said, look, we are probably not going get a large deal, he is at this point urgenting members of congress to work together to at least prevent taxes from going up. he had has acknowledged that there's not enough time to get a large sweeping deal done.
this on twitter, most of us agree the chained cpi is off the table in these negotiations. president obama continued to put public pressure on republicans during his appearance on "meet the press" today. >> it is very important for republicans in congress to be willing to say, we understand we're not going to get 100%, we're willing to compromise in a serious way. >> joined by congressman barney frank of massachusetts. it is good to see you, congressman. good evening. >> thank you. >> you're coming -- the senate's coming back at 11:00 tomorrow morning. what are chances there will be something to vote on, do you think? >> i think there are very good chances there will be something to vote on. the question is whether it will be a bipartisan agreement or simply the senate democrats putting a vote and hoping republicans will vote for it. trying to get an agreement is difficult because that gives right wing of the republican party this big veto. a number of republican senators, not just those generally considered to be moderate, have said that they agree that it is important now to keep taxes f
and there were profane words used to the way they comport themselves and as a result these guys were free of any tether to the leadership and so not only were they voting or prepared to vote against boehner this last time around. he pulled the bill so we'll never know. they were flouting him very publicly, in particular you saw tim hills' camp saying we won't be intimidated by the speaker and the republican leadership and there were some tweets, as well. the lesson wasn't learned. if anything, they're moving in the opposite direction. >> are they known for being as what jonathan was saying here, jerks and we are paraphrasing here at the moment based on what was actually said by representative moreland. what are they known for? >> they are known for being true mostly to the tea party, and they are not responsive to the priorities of their own party leadership. they're responsive to their own constituencies and what they're worried about is being challenged by someone who is more conservative than they are and when they would hold this vote as a score on whether to support them or oppose them in t
ederter for politics and news at yahoo! news. she has become a weekend pal. thanks for being back with us, both of you. let's start with the debt limit, we're talking about the debt limit, again. do republicans believe this is their ace in the hole? >> i sure hope they don't. i think the president has the stronger hand on this. number one, he won the election. we're all discussing that. he has the stronger hand in general. the other thing is that everybody remembers what we went through two summers ago. the summer of 2011 when the nation went through default. people felt that the president handled the situation badly, but they felt the republican congress was much worse in that particular negotiation. i don't think the republicans in trying to reestablish their brand want to get back into that fight and look like they want to have the ability to hold up the debt ceiling and then potentially bring the nation back to the edge of default, again. >> i want to play a snippet here of what majority leader harry reid said this week said about the fiscal. >> we would be somewhat foolish to work ou
don't want us to lose the hurt and the anger that we feel now and our resolve to do something. >> joining me with the very latest on the investigation is nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams. pete, where are connecticut state police focusing today as they try to uncover more behind the reasons of adam lanza? >> well, there's a huge wide range of what they're doing, thomas. they're interviewing witnesses still. they haven't even gotten to interviewing the children yet. that's going to be a very difficult process to do, very delicate one is the way they described it. there were two adult survivors. they have the history of the weapons, the history of the ammunition, all of that to look at. now, the hopes were fairly high that they might have a breakthrough with adam lanza's computer that was at his mother's home at the scene where he shot his mother before this all began. but there's some pessimism about that now because he damaged the computer, took the hard drive out of the computer, damaged that further. they knew that when they got it. they thought well, you know, m
packages. gun control probably will be on the table and the gun lobby will get used to it. i was surprised that the nra didn't give up some small concession. it seemed they might so they could be a player in the debate. of course, they doubled down as you said. i think we will see a lot more discussion next year. it is not going to fade because the president has made it a priority going into january. >> it is interesting because republicans and conservatives have been taking a step away from their stance on guns. back in 1995 three weeks after the oklahoma city bombing former president george h bush resigned as agents were called jackbooted thugs. do you think that other lawmakers will take bold steps away from the nra or stay put? >> in a word, no. as a matter of fact i think those who have made steps away from the nra will probably make bold steps back to the nra because they know it is the politicly expedient thing to do. we have a continuation of the massacres that occur periodically in this country and nobody seems to be willing to do anything. even if they come up with another assaul
. to the some mention i don't like guns in our schools. it's a nice political sound bite and they can use an old statement from bill clinton to say this, but i'm not sure it's a practical idea, frankly. >> first of all, when it comes to education, decisions really do need to be handled on a local level. that's how education decisions should be made. but at the same time i do support the idea of consideration putting an armed patrol officer. my sister in atlanta works at a receiving desk, and she's not prepared or trained for dealing with someone coming into the school. i would hate to think of my sister or another teacher have been to stop someone from breaking into their school. so it is something to consider, what we learned from friday and the ensuing conversations, we need to put all options on the table. >> but lapierre is saying don't even skier the clips and some are saying clips should be considered here? >> that certainly will be debated the gun control advocates have been talking about this since the tragedy happened and it's something we will be discussing s. but as we have said we ne
're happy to have that fight. so you really are, the possibility ultimately of us going off the cliff is very high. because i think both parties are happy to let it happen. and have a new fight in january for different political reasons. >> ed, we saw and heard from tennessee senator bob corker say he is okay with raising tax rates. but at the end of the day, it only matters what john boehner can get the house republicans to accept. last week the speaker indicated he might be okay with raising rates, he backtracked a few hours later. what's the appetite right now for raising those rates? is that something that's going to be an easier sell for john boehner than a lot of folks think? >> i don't necessarily think so. i think until we see guys like say jason chafitz of utah or tim scott of south carolina start speaking out about the possibility of extending taxes for the middle class and going up, i don't think it can happen, necessarily. you know, and they run the risk potentially of running into a situation like we did in 2008. where a deal is put together on t.a.r.p. back then remember
house are using words like stalemate, impas, radical and scrooge. we'll go behind the silly terms of the debate and also take you through all the sticking points holding back that will do one-by-one over the next three hours. we start today with the very latest move by democratic leader nancy pelosi who is threatening a power play move to force a vote on extending middle class tax cuts. this morning, president obama also pushed away republican senator orrin hatch called his proposal, radical. >> it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the we weltmist americans. >> what he proposed this week is a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase doubled the size of what he campaigned on. >> joining me now nbc news white house correspondent mike viqueira. mike, let's talk about this thing. this is the time the lawmakers are breaking out the rule book to find some tricks. how does pelosi think she can force a vote on middle class tax cuts? >> it's funny, craig, the presi
violence and an organizer with 1 million moms for gun control. >> they can keep pushing us and bumping us and moving us back. >> it's the holidays, you want to get home, but at the same time, what are you going to do? >> on this holiday weekend, thousands of flights delayed and we're watching that as the winter stom wallops the midwest and good day to you. i'm richard lui. the stalled fiscal cliff debate and the january deadline now just ten days away. president obama and his family are vacationing in hawaii and congress is on holiday recess after no new breakthrough and both sides are holding out and they'll be able to reach a deal. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> nbc's kristin welker is in hawaii and the president is still in talks while he's there or are the the talks on hiatus? >> richard, my sources tell me this is very much a working vacation for president obama and at this time there's no conversation between the president and
. say louisiana or there's no dessert. this invitation is brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home. >>> hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. topping the agenda this hour, breaking news out of michigan. the fight coming to a head over that state's right to work law as thousands of protesters swarched the state capital. union supporters are rallying around the capital building itself in lansing as gop lawmakers from both state houses vote on a bill that would significantly weaken union rights in a state considered one of the cradles of the labor movement. the law prohibits workers from being required to pay union dues as a condition of employment. republican governor schneider saying that he'll sign that bill right away making michigan the 24th state with the right to work. >>> yesterday president obama joined the chorus of voices condemning this move. >> by the way, what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your right to bargain for better wages. giving you the right to work for less money. >> nbc is live from lansing, michig
to play the blame game. this is about to put us over the edge. >> perry, i want to start with you. if perception is reality and the blame is going to matter to somebody, which side is it really going to matter to? ivities the blame is on both sides. what's driven this whole process is republicans are very opposed to -- just the republicans who will vote for any tax increase. we learned last week from the plan b vote. once we go over the cliff, republicans are ready for a tax cut, not an increase. right now that's what the big challenge is. >> chip, is that the biggest strategy here, get to the third and pass the third, the new congress comes in, boehner danger doesn't exist anymore, his speakership stays in place and grover norquist gives a thumbs up to up? >> i don't think that was the strategy a week ago. i think the speaker was trying to put the deal together, as we've seen the senate not -- i think that may become the strategy. i've always thought they would wait until the last hour, put a band eight on it, but wait until the iii so they can vote for a tax cut makes sense as w
and whether they're going to take us to the edge. also, who is lindsey graham calling, quote, crazy bastards on the senate floor? here is a hint. it all has to do with guantanamo bay and with the resignation of jesse jackson jr. from the halls of congress, what will become of the legacy of his famous father? we'll talk about that as well. we start here. the republican thrashing of the president's potential pick for secretary of state continued this week. ambassador susan rice did not seem to do herself any favors. meetings with top republicans on the hill, with several says their discussions left them more troubled. president obama and this cabinet stood by her. >> mrs. rice is extraordinary. i couldn't be prouder of the job that she has done. [ applause ] >> and joining me now from the white house, nbc news correspondent viqueira. vic, will the gop continue its pile-on of the ambassador? will it have the opposite effect of hardening the president and daring him essentially to select her for secretary of state perhaps? >> well, you know, it's hard to say exactly what is going through the pre
problem. he's saying what's worse. what he is saying is use blackmail on the entire economy like a gangster. pity if it happens to blow up. not increasing the debt ceiling -- >> already did that before. they have done it before. >> they have. >> and will do it again. >> frankly, that is obnoxious beyond belief. the president should not concede or negotiate on that basis at all. >> the president is adamant on the fact that's not a part of this conversation. >> it cannot be a part of any conversation. the debt ceiling is not a question of borrowing more. you determine how much deficit you will have passing the budget two, three, four years ago. >> correct. >> to say you won't raise the debt ceiling is to say you're not going to pay the bills and wreck the economy. increasing the debt ceiling is not optional. we have raised it 77 times since world war ii. seven times in the bush administration. there's always been a demagogue ri but never until last year an attempt to hold the country hostage and the reason in the crisis with the fiscal cliff now is because that's a consequence of t
for that perspective for us there in washington, d.c. >> let's bring in our panel to talk more about the politics of this heated debate. jake, start with you. you work on the hill and the question now is is there 60 votes in the senate, there are 218 votes in the house for gun control legislation to get passed? >> i think before you start count being the votes you have to consider whether speaker john boehner will even bring this to the floor. he was asked last week if he supports gun control measures, he said he was very noncommittal, he said he'll look at anything but speaker john boehner and house republicans are not likely to bring this to the floor in the way that president obama wants. they do not boy biand large favor an assault weapons ban but it's absolutely going to be a huge fight going forward. >> it it makes it to the floor? >> i don't think it will make it. i think the house republicans, there are not 218 votes as congress stands right now and if president obama wants to engage congress on this, it will be an uphill battle for him. >> let's listen to chuck schumer responding to wayn
and apparently at that decideded to take his own life. >> what else, michelle can you tell us about those final moments before adam lanza decided to kill himself? >> reporter: well, those are certainly the detailsa we're hoping that we'll learn about, perhaps at this press conference or in the coming days, exactly the length that adam lansa had to this school, in fact what happened, perhaps they'll have a little bit better timeline. when first responders and law enforcement arrived on scene, they arrived to a very active shooter situation, a very chaotic situation and of course what was left behind is just devastating in terms of what they had to cope and deal with in terms of not just the emotions of this, but also processing that crime scene. so that they're say whether take the most time. >> the stories of heroism that happened inside sandy hook elementary school. the teacher who for all intents and purposes risked her life in an attempt to save the lives of her children there. and i do want to call our viewer's attention to the left side of the screen here, president obama who is at andrews
. >> hopefully, i mean, all of us are hoping that speaker boehner and president obama are talking more behind the scenes than we know. >> joining me now is california congressman adam scheffler, a member of the house appropriations committee. it's great to have you with me and to pass along, we have the rundown of what the voters will have. the timing on the vote on plan b is roughly at 7:30 to 8:00 tonight and 217 is the number and plan b can pass even if it loses around 20 gop votes and leadership on the left has indicated that there are many democrats that may be voting for it. so why fan these political flames from the left if the president is against it from the get go? >> i think it's really a complete waste of time and i don't know yet speaker is bringing this forward. if it had the merit of at least giving his members some political cover so that he being give them a harder deal later, i would say fine, but i don't know how it accomplishes that. it's going nowhere in the senate. so it will not increase his bargaining position and if it doesn't increase leverage within its own conferen
out. craig? >> republicans are going to have to show a little more ankle. i'll be using that. mike viquiera, from 1600 pennsylvania, thank you, good sir. so will a deal get done by the january 1st deadline? here's what one prominent republican senator had to say this morning. >> i think we're going off the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation. you can limit deductions to $40,000, $50,000 a person which takes care of the middle class, upper-income americans will lose about $800 billion in revenue. the president's plan when it comes to entitlement reform is quite frankly a joke. i don't think they're serious about finding a deal. >> joining me are our special panelist of journalists, anna marie cox and karen tumblty, a political reporter for the "washington post." good sunday afternoon to both of you. >> anna marie, let me start with you. for about two days after the election, everyone is holding hands, singing kumbaya. no one is singing any more. all of that optimism seems to have disappeared. we're hearing more lawmakers saying publicly, we just heard
commitment has never been stronger. >>> now the efforts by the u.s. military against al qaeda are in their 12th year, we must also ask ourselves how will this conflict end? >> that's a very good question, and since that's the pentagon's top lawyer asking it, we'll ask our brain trust, is the war on terror winding down? first, though, the fiscal cliff looms ever nearer, the house speaker, among many others, sounding very pessimistic today. are we headed over the edge? and after the election in a bruising defeat, what's next for the republican party? we'll talk to one top outgoing gop senator. good sunday afternoon to you, you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. there are no signs right now of a break in the deadlocked talks to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, the devastating combinations of tax increase and spending cuts that kick in january 1st. both sides seem to dig in this morning on the sunday talk shows. >> the only thing standing in the way of that would be a refusal by republicans that the rates would have to go up on the wealthiest americans, and i don't really see them doing
continue to tick down, housing would continue to improve. but what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington. and if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still hasn't been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we could have had, had the republicans been willing to take the deal that i gave them, if they say that people's taxes have gone up, which means consumer spending is going to be depressed, then obviously that's going to have an adverse reaction on the markets. >> what about automatic spending cuts? those take effect january 1st as well. do they have to be part of this deal? you've got half of those cuts in defense alone. >> well, the other part of the fiscal cliff is congress agreed that they would cut an additional $1.2 trillion in spending. they put a committee together to try to come up with those numbers. they didn't figure out how to do it. and so what we now have is a situation where these automatic spending cuts go into place. now if we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit mor
that day are something that, again, has got to be used as a measuring stick for the elected representatives of this country, that, you know, she did her job and now it is time for us to do our job. >> you talk about the different tone and the distinction that we're hearing, there are certain voices on the right that are lending different type of perspective to this, like texas governor rick perry. the latest to advocate training and arming schoolteachers. the teacher heralded for putting the kids in cabinets in her classroom. her services held today. then bob mcdonald yesterday saying that it is a conversation worth having about, arming teachers. do you think that's an answer for connecticut and schools across the country? >> i don't. school safety is clearly something that we need to inventory. i'm a member of the education and labor committee next january and have written to the chairman saying, you know, we need to have a real information sharing of best practices. right now school superintendents are getting inundated with solicitations from security firms. we need to help public school
on the table? >> you're exactly right. it's not reality. the simple math doesn't add up. i use the analogy, it's like going tos an fast food chain and, there's calories involved in that, you might gain a little bit of weight. >> not if nobody sees you eat it. >> at the end of the day you know what you ate and you're going to gain the weight. the fact of the matter is it's simple arithmetic here. when you take a look at entitlement reform that, is the real driver here to bring down our deficit and to bring fiscal sanity back to washington, d.c. as it relates to medicare, as it relates to social security. that's the real conversation that we as the american people need to have around our kitchen tables. >> an interesting note to point out amid this debt crisis going on, new jersey governor chris christie is at the white house asking for more aid in the aftermath of hurricane sandy. the president is going to ask congress for $50 billion. new jersey and new york will no doubt want a big slice of that but disaster relief is being held hostage by the fiscal cliff. how much pressure does this additio
to metro detroit. we're the home for u.s. manufacturing. also we're the home for the american worker. we need to resolve our fiscal problems, but resolve them in a way that continues to investigation in training and educating our workers and advanced manufacturing and also providing the revenue that we need to still provide health care to our seniors and social security to those who depend on it. >> sir, let's talk about getting to the sensible center here. because as the politico poll that i referenced earlier off the top of the show indicates, 59% oppose significant cuts to defense but 75% favor across the board spending cuts. so where are you and other colleagues willing to start with those spending cuts? i mean, what are democrats willing to put on the table specifically? >> well, first of all, i've spoken to many republicans in the house. i'm one of the most liberal democratic members of the house, but i have great relationships with the republicans. all of us want to resolve this crisis. we want to come to an agreement. so i believe that we will find a way to negotiate this. we als
of us who call the gulf home. >>> from nbc >>> from nbc news in washington, the world's longest-running television program, this is "meet the press" with david gregory. >>> good sunday morning. time is nearly up before we go over the so-called fiscal cliff. senate leaders spent the weekend working on a last-ditch deal, and the house comes back for a rare sunday night session. yesterday afternoon in an exclusive interview, president obama sat down with me in the blue room of the white house to discuss the way forward and his priorities for a second term. >>> mr. president, welcome back to "meet the press." >> great to be here. thank you. >> the obvious question, are we going to go over the fiscal cliff? >> we'll find out in the next 48 hours what congress will decide to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended, and they are all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight december 31, if congress do
next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems to be at a standstill right now. let's review the bidding. here it is from a republican source here on the republican side of capitol hill. all day yesterday they were trading proposals back and forth. by his count two democratic offers came back to republicans and four came back from republicans to democrats. the last one being at 7:00 last night, and, boom, after that, things pretty much came to a standsti standstill. no offers. republicans say they have not heard from democrats since then. mitch mcconnell, of course, the republican leader here in the senate, has said he has reached out to joe biden, the vice president, an
a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously they always say the white house travels with the president wherever he is. that's where the white house is. the president, though, is enjoying vacation, but still continuing to keep tabs on the fiscal cliff negotiations, correct? >> he is. white house officials describe this as a working vacation. i think there have been maybe a few conversations at the staff level about the fiscal cliff, but the reality is, thomas, the negotiations have largely stalled. you remember president obama on friday urging lawmakers to take this time off to really cool off, come back later this week with a appreciate perspective. i think you're going to see the hard work, the real negotiations resume when lawmakers go back into session after the christmas holiday. now, last week it seemed as though president obama, house speaker john boehner we
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